Comments on: Vmware Springsource and Hyperic: Brave new world and a lot of questions http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/ Sat, 09 Jul 2011 14:20:17 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Pocket Folders http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-536 Pocket Folders Sat, 09 Jul 2011 14:20:17 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-536 great post! great post!

]]> By: Sam Brown http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-534 Sam Brown Sat, 09 Jul 2011 14:18:47 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-534 great berkay.. hope to have more posts in future as well great berkay.. hope to have more posts in future as well

]]> By: Stickers Printing http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-535 Stickers Printing Sat, 09 Jul 2011 14:17:27 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-535 nice post berkay nice post berkay

]]> By: Arun Soni http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-532 Arun Soni Mon, 30 May 2011 08:24:53 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-532 I didn’t get it; what’s VMWare got to do with SpringSource.<br><a href="http://www.sooperarticles.com/health-fitness-articles/how-choose-medical-billing-program-448135.html" rel="nofollow">medical billing and coding</a> I didn’t get it; what’s VMWare got to do with SpringSource.
medical billing and coding

]]> By: Printing Host http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-517 Printing Host Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:53:57 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-517 I am agree with Berkay I am agree with Berkay

]]> By: admin http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-497 admin Tue, 25 May 2010 17:12:21 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-497 That's what I had hoped as well but unfortunately it looks like VMWare with another vendor called Gemstone That’s what I had hoped as well but unfortunately it looks like VMWare with another vendor called Gemstone

]]> By: sticker printing http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-382 sticker printing Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:16:12 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-382 I really hope VMWare takes a look at acquiring terracotta as well. I really hope VMWare takes a look at acquiring terracotta as well.

]]> By: berkay http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-369 berkay Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:25:38 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-369 Agreed. <br>VMWare may be able to do more than bare metal jvm OS with Springsource, They can go further app the stack and create something like Google App Engine for the enterprise, without the limitations of GAE. Agreed.
VMWare may be able to do more than bare metal jvm OS with Springsource, They can go further app the stack and create something like Google App Engine for the enterprise, without the limitations of GAE.

]]> By: Bill http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-368 Bill Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:53:27 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-368 Spring is running on the JVM, just like JBoss etc. VMWare do not have to buy a Java framework to do JVM stuff.<br><br>VMWare could do a "bare metal" jvm os, and you could run Java app on top of that. You dont need Spring to do that. Spring is running on the JVM, just like JBoss etc. VMWare do not have to buy a Java framework to do JVM stuff.

VMWare could do a “bare metal” jvm os, and you could run Java app on top of that. You dont need Spring to do that.

]]> By: williamlouth http://www.mberkay.com/2009/08/11/vmware-springsource-and-hyperic-brave-new-world-and-a-lot-of-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-367 williamlouth Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:27:09 +0000 http://www.mberkay.com/?p=155#comment-367 Actually most of the other vendors such as Tivoli, HP and BMC do provide agents for the Java runtime though in most accounts they are disabled because of the large overhead they generally incur and the poor value delivered by what is collected. Tivoli has probably one of the worst track records in this regard followed by HP. Most customers buying into such products are also buying into the complete ITIL product management suite including help desks, cmdbs, slm, bsm,... which is completely out of the range & possibilities of Hyperic and its team.<br><br>You are probably right that Hyperic will target specifically Java now considering that SpringSource had indicated that they were going to do a complete rewrite which follows on from two other complete rewrites by JBoss and Hyperic itself. If a complete rewrite is underway then management would probably look to minimize risk and reduce the scope. That said I would not be surprised if Hyperic is not put to rest as VMware has already invested in tooling around its management console(s).<br><br>I still think we are a very long way away from are sort of automated dynamic provisioning until we can accurate collect and model the underlying software and system execution models. Actually most of the other vendors such as Tivoli, HP and BMC do provide agents for the Java runtime though in most accounts they are disabled because of the large overhead they generally incur and the poor value delivered by what is collected. Tivoli has probably one of the worst track records in this regard followed by HP. Most customers buying into such products are also buying into the complete ITIL product management suite including help desks, cmdbs, slm, bsm,… which is completely out of the range & possibilities of Hyperic and its team.

You are probably right that Hyperic will target specifically Java now considering that SpringSource had indicated that they were going to do a complete rewrite which follows on from two other complete rewrites by JBoss and Hyperic itself. If a complete rewrite is underway then management would probably look to minimize risk and reduce the scope. That said I would not be surprised if Hyperic is not put to rest as VMware has already invested in tooling around its management console(s).

I still think we are a very long way away from are sort of automated dynamic provisioning until we can accurate collect and model the underlying software and system execution models.

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